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Comment by Matthew Taggart on June 4, 2012 at 6:32pm

me personally would love to hear more criticism. i have in the past with many pieces of mine. luckily most response have been positive. i think i can learn from my mistakes. some of them i see and probably a lot i miss. bring it on but please be kind hahaha.

Comment by ken coleman on June 4, 2012 at 2:43am

Just to be the fly in the ointment . . . I, too, look at a lot of work and try to decide what makes it successful. But it's also possible to be influenced by work that lacks good composition, or sometimes even any "composition" at all. I love this site. I go through the 100 photos slideshow at least once a day. We all want to be encouraging, no one wants to say anything negative. To be candid, however, not all collages are equally strong.  What I have threatened to do is put up a piece and invite criticism -- real, honest, candid criticism. I do have formal art training (though not in painting/draawing) and survived some brutal crits that, after I licked my wounds, made me better able to do self-criticism. Do you think folks here would warm up to the idea/opportunity?

--Ken

Comment by Peter Goudaman on June 3, 2012 at 8:01pm
I really like this one. In particular I like the feeling of the three "levels" of women. The middle woman is far away, more unknown, the bottom woman is closer, like and acquaintance, and the eye is the most intimate. So I get this feeling of close, farther away, and distant. And most of all that wierd juxtaposition of shape that makes collage what it is.
Comment by Jack O. Summers on June 3, 2012 at 6:30pm

I did see the piece and there is  a great continuity yet contrast between the 2 halves.....good job. Lots to think about with this one.

Oh and with composition...there are no rules...only guidelines. Keep up the interesting work !

Comment by Matthew Taggart on June 3, 2012 at 6:01pm

i posted the piece t i consider the companion piece to Fashion Cents. it has more to do with a certain image continuity in both pieces.

Comment by Matthew Taggart on June 3, 2012 at 5:56pm

i like the idea of creating multiple points of attention. whether that happens or not, its an idea i like to play with. i know when i look at my pieces i usually have one section that i focus on the most but i usually grow into liking other spots that appeal to it. for the part of this piece that sets it off for me is the lower left corner. i love the blue and red in there. the other colors in the piece are more earth tone and the red and blue are kind of the cherry on top as far as color. i do like the clean, straight edges around the edge with torn on the inside of the piece. i also enjoy playing with minimal pieces. its something i love about Luc Fierens' work. he makes amazing collage with two pieces. i'm definitely a minimalist in some regards to my work.

i agree with you. i usually focus on the smaller parts with larger pieces. in this regard its definitely the eye. i will post the other piece that i think goes with this one. see what you think of that one.

Comment by Jack O. Summers on June 3, 2012 at 5:48pm

Oh another thing about this piece ...is the nice combo of sharp and torn edges.

Comment by Jack O. Summers on June 3, 2012 at 5:47pm

M.

You make some excellent points. And when you do look at other works that you think are strong, try to analyze them and figure out what they have done to make it strong and work  for you. Do you want one place to stand out and attract the most attention....or do you want it to be more of an all over pattern. And of course color and contrast have a lot to do with composition and controlling the viewers eye...ex..a mostly red work with a splash of blue...the eye will go to the blue because of color difference. If you have all large pieces and one small...the small is  liable to attract attention...but that will  depend on color value etc.

Yes composition is always a challenge for everyone.

Comment by Matthew Taggart on June 3, 2012 at 4:41pm

thank you for using my piece as an example. i'm very curious about composition also. i'm self taught on all this so i don't necessarily have the vocabulary to explain what i think i do instinctively. i think thats one thing i enjoy about collage is the ability to work with placement of pieces more easily than other forms of art. i might be wrong about that since i don't paint or sew or whatever. its a very visually based creative process. even though you still use your imagination, you have a more concrete visual on what you are working with. i have paid a lot of attention to other collage artist to see how they work and construct pieces so i feel i've gotten a good education of composition. but at the same time exploring composition within my own take on it.

Comment by Jack O. Summers on June 3, 2012 at 2:14pm

First you have a good balance between large, medium and small shapes. And the fact that they are all rectangular in feeling also help. Getting the right balance of repetition and varitey is always a challenge. Now don't think  I am some great compositional expert. But it is something I always look at. And of course, composition is ALWAYS a struggle. Don't forget to put things upside down and on each side. The composition should work from any angle. And when you look at it upside down...where does your eye go first??? and is that where you want  to eye to go ?

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